Kenneth Wapnick

On Dissuading People from Doing the Course

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INTRODUCTION

Below is a post by Ike Allen about a discussion he had with Kenneth Wapnick "on dissuading people from doing the Course".

The link to the original article is now dead, so I have elected to re-post the article in its entirety here.

Alex Paterson (March 2025)



Ken Wapnick: On Dissuading People from Doing the Course


Original link (now dead) http://www.avaiya.com/2013/03/ken-wapnick-on-dissuading-people-from-doing-the-course/

Hi, I’m AVAIYA Founder, Ike Allen.

While spending time with Ken Wapnick to create A Course in Miracles The Movie, Leap! The Movie , the A Course in Miracles Awakening Series & the book, 45 Days With Kenneth Wapnick, I asked him several wonderful questions, including the story that Helen said The Course was only for a few people.

Below is the response Ken shared with me:

"One of the things Helen (Schucman) used to say about the Course, is that it’s only for about five or six people. There was a period of time when she actually counted who she thought the five or six people were. I’m not going to give you the names. At some point, I think it was in a weak moment, she expanded it to nine or ten. But the point of that is not to take it as literally true, but as a symbol for the fact that this Course, in its pure form, in what it’s really teaching, is for relatively few, because it’s so frightening.

It threatens the very fabric of our existence. It threatens the greatest value of all, which is the value of our personal self. So while I quote Helen’s line rather often, about the five or six people, and sometimes we even say, half jokingly, that I try to dissuade people from the Course, it’s really a way of saying that this is much more serious than you think. This is a much more serious thought system than you think. This has a depth far greater than you believe. And that in a sense, I’m kind of warning them that if you continue with this, you’re going to lose everything, at least everything that you hold dear.

There’s a wonderful line saying that when you cross over to the real world, which is the Course’s symbol for the end of the journey, you will realize “in glad astonishment that for all this, you gave up nothing.” But on this side of the bridge, we’re giving up everything. We’re giving up not only what we cherish and what we love, but we’re giving up our very self. So that’s why the process is really a very gentle one in which we don’t transcend the Ego until the very end, but we transform our self. We transform ourselves from an angry, judgmental, guilty, fearful, anxious person to someone who is now more loving, more gentle, more kind and more peaceful.

So there’s a gentle kind of transition, but at the very end, the whole thing dissolves into its own nothingness. So I like to caution people, at least alert people, to take this Course much more seriously than they may otherwise do; and to really have enough humility and enough respect for the Course to see oneself as spending a lifetime growing into it, rather than being tempted to scale it down to our size, but to see our lives as growing into it. Because this is a thought system that literally reaches to Heaven, even though it meets us in this world, in the illusion – but its ultimate goal is to awaken us from the dream and return us home."

 


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